Carp: The facts

[john montana]

As one of the most dedicated carp fisherman in the state of Oregon, I still say if carp can be safely removed from a watershed then get 'em out of there. The same goes for smallmouth and other non native fish (uh...brownout trout definitely squeeze out native populations in certain watersheds too). In my limited view the native species should absolutely be encouraged to prosper. Seems pretty simple.

But, it just ain't happening in the big river. Instead, the big C is a world class smallmouth fishery, and frankly a world class carp fishery. I would support getting rid of carp or bass anywhere that such support was practical, but in the big C it just isn't...so give em a shot sometime. They can be fun.

Personally, I find carp extremely tough to catch using an unscented artificial fly. I have caught them relatively easily fishing corn with my 4 and 5 year olds but that is my entire, and severly limited experience with carp and bait.

Check out my blog if you are interested in carp on the fly. While far from an expert, I can definitely point put a few things NOT to do!

Dig the new forum.

 

[Fishtopher]

There isn't a good title for this post....

There isn't a good title for this post....

OK maybe not L.S...but I stand by the rest of my goofy statements. And Beav, big ups to ya, but I (we) just dont see the same negativity towards those other species from ya as much as this whole carp thing.

Last year was "year of the snaggers"/"AA's fantastic posts". This year the forum has been dominated by carp bashing..."Year of the Carp...crap". As with GZ I too have been "smartened"(?) by narcotic pain relievers and too much egg cure mixed into my scrambled eggs...err, brain. So disregard everything I have written in the last 240 hours and chalk it up to eating too much carp outta the Columbia Slough.

Now if we could only get the Sea Lions convinced that Carp are way more nutritional than a measely Chinook, we would be on the right track. Hey, *lightbulb* as soon as all these other invasive non native species take the Salmon/Steelhead population down to nil, the Sea Lions will have no food to chase except the non native invasive species!! Then maybe some dill hole will introduce Alligators to the Columbia and THEY will take the Sea Lion population down to nil.

That should get me a nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize....

Sorry guys. Ran out of my Xanax a little early this month...



As for Carp: The facts, my favorite place to fish for 'em is in the Columbia Slough. Cuz when I fish for 'em there, I never know what is gonna bite...could be a stray Cayman, maybe someones Pacu or giant Chilchid they had to get rid of and couldnt find a better place to let em go.

And this thread hasnt been beaten to death. Carp have.

 

[kaimuki49]

well ya that's ambien Zen, but mixed with xanax you could be found in a bar in another state and not know it. just depends how deep u want to go.

 

[Fishtopher]

lol' A bread ball is a bread ball but if someone's going to use marshmellows for trout they gotta be pink and garlic scented. And thanks for thowing me under the bus Mark!:lol:

How did I know it was YOU that he was talkin' about....

well ya that's ambien Zen, but mixed with xanax you could be found in a bar in another state and not know it. just depends how deep u want to go.

+1

:naughty::naughty:

I knew that was coming!...

 

[OnTheFly]

I have to agree.I can't see where people think that eating corn or dough make carp stupid. I mean OTF has no problem fishing for slimy trout with a fly an people fish marshmallows for them.

How did I know it was YOU that he was talkin' about....

Gee I dunno Chris.

 

[Fishtopher]

Sorry you ran out of xanax, i get prescribed more then i know what to do with, you should chat with your doctor.

I kill and toss every n.pikeminnow, carp, bass, walleye, etc that I accidently catch while fishing for trout or steelhead on the bank until i am done fishing then toss them back in the water to feed other fish..

I do the same thing minus the waste. Usually plenty of hungry mouths frequent the spots I fish for them other fish. In the summer at Riverside there is a couple that kinda stay down there that eat up every egg sucking P Min I drag back to 'em. And down at Bum Rock at the East Bank Esplenade, mouths water for the Carp and Yellow Belly/Channel Cats. Nice to put 'em to SOME use! a lot of these "other" fish make fantastic Sturgeon bait too.
I need the number to your doc!

 

[Fishtopher]

Gee I dunno Chris.

:tongue:

 

[kaimuki49]

when raincatcher posts the fingers waving, that is a warning??

 

[GraphiteZen]

when raincatcher posts the fingers waving, that is a warning??

Only to other mods.

 

[Fishtopher]

This deserves its own thread;

Raincatcher: The facts.....

 

[bigsteel]

How did I know it was YOU that he was talkin' about....

Gee I dunno Chris.

hes just trying to get a rise out of you jim,,,he already said in another thread that hes done coming to OFF and we could catch him on SSSF and that lasted about a day

 

[Fishtopher]

Post deleted (and it was a good one too...I know a few of ya got to enjoy it before I clipped it!) to protect the integrity of OFF. What's left of it after this thread....


bigsteel, it's too bad Cake isn't around anymore. He'd have one word for ya. Anyone been around long enough to know what Cake would have to say?:think:

 

[kaimuki49]

JUST when I think I am "getting" things here, I lose my foot hold and tumble down into the abyss. Is there too much ambien and xanax being circulated that I dont know about? Are these posts encripted for security reasons and I dont have the code?

To top this depressing day off, barb wrote me and scolded me because I used a lot of "!!!!!!!!!s" in a post and warned me sternly about the fact that I wanted to buy people's junk fish for crab bait - in some people's minds a violation of the F&G regulations.

I only go to 2 places in town, the feed store and the bar. The feed store is closed, and I am headin for town. Not to fear tho, as the Johnny Cash song says I "dont take my guns to town"! (aha! I used a "!")

 

[Fishtopher]

JUST when I think I am "getting" things here, I lose my foot hold and tumble down into the abyss. Is there too much ambien and xanax being circulated that I dont know about? Are these posts encripted for security reasons and I dont have the code?

To top this depressing day off, barb wrote me and scolded me because I used a lot of "!!!!!!!!!s" in a post and warned me sternly about the fact that I wanted to buy people's junk fish for crab bait - in some people's minds a violation of the F&G regulations.

I only go to 2 places in town, the feed store and the bar. The feed store is closed, and I am headin for town. Not to fear tho, as the Johnny Cash song says I "dont take my guns to town"! (aha! I used a "!")

Sorry man. My heads been on backwards and upside down lately. I apologize you had to bear witness to my corrupt mind...

 

[Drew9870]

bigsteel, it's too bad Cake isn't around anymore. He'd have one word for ya. Anyone been around long enough to know what Cake would have to say?:think:

He would of said, ''kill and eat, kill and eat, it's the way of the buckethead"

or ''Put your bucket back on your head and go pig fishin some more''

:lol: I thought fishing was a sport, not a way to panhandle for food.

 

[Fishtopher]

He would of said, ''kill and eat, kill and eat, it's the way of the buckethead"

or ''Put your bucket back on your head and go pig fishin some more''

:lol: I thought fishing was a sport, not a way to panhandle for food.

:lol::clap:

 

[lilsalmon]

bigsteel, it's too bad Cake isn't around anymore. He'd have one word for ya. Anyone been around long enough to know what Cake would have to say?:think:[/QUOTE]

I dunno.....eat me? I couldn't resist!!!! :lol:

 

[Fishtopher]

I dunno.....eat me? I couldn't resist!!!! :lol:

With a name like Cake that's what you'd think right! But waaaaay OFF!!:lol:

 

[OnTheFly]

Regarding thread Carp: The facts

Regarding thread Carp: The facts

Just wanted to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread. You have made it a 1 STAR rating!:clap::clap::clap: It deserved much less.:lol:

My intention from the begining was to give the carp guys a chance to speak out and to build a case in defence against the ridicule that carp fishing receives. I believe I have been successful. Out of this thread we have eliminated the myths, agreed and disagreed on a number of issues, learned how to fish for them, and convinced the administrator the need to create a carp forum of it's own. We have also identified a few OFF members who are experienced in this fishery that could help, not only the beginner, but someone who has done this for awhile. Names that come to mind are: John Montana, Drew, and maybe Graphite Zen and Markcanby.(I might be wrong about the last two mentioned:lol As for me, I am a true carpophobe. I will never go after a carp because of how they remind me so much of a sucker. The Kern River in California is the blame for my personal feelings about this. They had to kill the river to control suckers along with every rainbow trout in the system. A carp to me is nothing but a sucker on steroids. For all of you carp fishermen I'm sorry. I respect your desire to target carp and I'm sure they stretch your tackle when hooked. I hope no one has taken offence to my jabs on the subject but I'm the kinda guy who likes to laugh and have fun.

(Tonights Margaritas may have had an effect on my post)

 

[GraphiteZen]

You are definitely wrong about the last two mentioned (at least the second from last)!!!