What color rotating flasher for kings?

[rogerdodger]

we often hear and/or say: use a large rotating flasher, any color you want, as long as it is green!


so which "green" color do you consider most effective: the lighter Chartreuse or the darker Green?

overcast/rainy conditions? bright sunny conditions?

 

[OnTheDrop]

Green, Chartreuse, and Red. All straight, or some with 'em both.

 

[rogerdodger]

the kings I have hooked up the last 2 years on the Siuslaw were on herring (whole or cut) with either a big rotating Chartreuse or a good small (#4) silver Lure Jensen Dodger.

this year I am planning to add a 'regular Green' BigAl flasher to the mix...roger

 

[rogerdodger]

FYI- BiMart has the BigAl flashers on sale for $9.87.

 

[C_Run]

I've been using these 4" Kone Zones since their rounded edges are touted to have less drag which is a factor in trolling a big rig from a kayak. Since I have minimal experience I can't say much other than they don't seem to hurt since I occasionally hook up with them. I also have a half blue one and I am not sure when I should be using that one.



Plus, they are made in Oregon.

 

[rogerdodger]

I've been using these 4" Kone Zones since their rounded edges are touted to have less drag which is a factor in trolling a big rig from a kayak. Since I have minimal experience I can't say much other than they don't seem to hurt since I occasionally hook up with them. I also have a half blue one and I am not sure when I should be using that one.



Plus, they are made in Oregon.

C_Run: does that one tend to rotate around it's center axis or does is sort of 'swim' around in large circles, changing depths as it swims?

being a light tackle guy at heart, I resisted going to the BigAl rotating flashers but after seeing a green or chartreuse one on almost every pole in the process of netting a king here, I tried one last year and they work, especially in low light/overcast/misty conditions. What really surprised me was how low the drag on them actually is. cheers, roger

 

[C_Run]

I have just used it with a 6 oz. cannonball and it just spins. This is the smallest size Kone Zone. You can move the clip to the other holes off center to make the herring jump around a bit although I have not tried that yet. I also have a Big Al's that I haven't used yet. I've actually only salmon fished out of the kayak about ten times so far but am jazzed about the upcoming season for sure.

 

[rogerdodger]

I have just used it with a 6 oz. cannonball and it just spins. This is the smallest size Kone Zone. You can move the clip to the other holes off center to make the herring jump around a bit although I have not tried that yet. I also have a Big Al's that I haven't used yet. I've actually only salmon fished out of the kayak about ten times so far but am jazzed about the upcoming season for sure.

wow, that is a lot of weight. with normal river depth here at 15 to 20 ft, I find a 3oz ball plenty of weight...

my initial set-up will be: spreader, 3oz weight on a foot of light mono, foot of heavy braid to BigAl, ~4' leader to herring rig. troll slow, set the weight on the bottom, bring it up a foot or two..troll..set the weight on the bottom, bring it up foot or two..troll....repeat...

roger

 

[C_Run]

wow, that is a lot of weight. with normal river depth here at 15 to 20 ft, I find a 3oz ball plenty of weight...

my initial set-up will be: spreader, 3oz weight on a foot of light mono, foot of heavy braid to BigAl, ~4' leader to herring rig. troll slow, set the weight on the bottom, bring it up a foot or two..troll..set the weight on the bottom, bring it up foot or two..troll....repeat...

roger

Come to think of it, the only time I did use 6 oz. was in Tillamook Bay and then less weight in the other couple of bays I fished. I was advised to add a bead chain so I've been putting one between the flasher and the herring. Otherwise, that sounds similar to what I have done so far.

 

[mikeredding]

Every Chinook I caught last year was on a black and green. Many days it was the only flasher working on the Siuslaw. About $12 at Mazamas.

 

[rogerdodger]

Mike- what brand is that? I don't think I have seen black and green flashers...roger

 

[mikeredding]

Mike- what brand is that? I don't think I have seen black and green flashers...roger

I think is it their own brand. I will see if I can find out and let you know.

 

[mikeredding]

The back side is a goldish red but for some reason looks very red in this pic. I will let you know the brand the next time I stop at Mazamas.

 

[rogerdodger]

thanks Mike, I have not seen those before, looks like a BigAl but the plastic is black instead of clear. with some electrical tape, I could make a BigAl look like that, very interesting...

heard more good things from Winchester Bay today, older couple from our subdivision have been out several times with a guide and have brought home 4 kings so far, all "around" 30#....

 

[mikeredding]

wow, that is a lot of weight. with normal river depth here at 15 to 20 ft, I find a 3oz ball plenty of weight...

Depends on where you are fishing Roger. For Chinook you want that bait right off the bottom. I very rarely use less than 6oz and anytime I am working next to the jetties I have at least 8oz. Ocassionally I will use 4oz on a calm day up near the barge.

 

[mikeredding]

I think is it their own brand. I will see if I can find out and let you know.

I think they are made by BYO for Mazamas and it looks like that one is not available anymore. Here is a link to the closest I can find.
http://http://www.byoflashers.com/shop/8-pink-blank-12-moon-jelly-12-pink-uv-copy-8/

 

[rogerdodger]

Depends on where you are fishing Roger. For Chinook you want that bait right off the bottom. I very rarely use less than 6oz and anytime I am working next to the jetties I have at least 8oz. Ocassionally I will use 4oz on a calm day up near the barge.

I agree, conditions will impact how much weight is used, including trolling speed (we favor the slower end of normal trolling speed)...we learned well last year that if you are not near the bottom, you are not fishing for kings. we like the slogan 'find the bottom': set your sinker down on the bottom momentatily, then raise it up a foot or 2, nice here that we have mostly just a sand bottom in our tidewater but this is the one real value I have found for sidescanning- it does a great job of locating those big snag trees that we have here and there, usually these are discovered by losing gear on them....