Hey Troutfisher. Actually, I do have a pair of downriggers but they moved to Idaho with my brother about 4 months ago. So, what I am doing is using a 4 oz lead ball dropped down about 4 or 5 inches from the rudder on my flasher assembly followed by a Kokabow spinner or Wedding Ring capped off with a chunk of nightcrawler. I'm letting out anywhere from 60 to 80 pulls of line. I caught a nice Koke two trips ago (about 16 inches) and a couple of 8-9 inchers but everything else this year has been bows. My Humminbird has been showning a lot of fish on the north side of the island but they are down on or near the bottom most of the time (100 feet or better). Even considering how slow the fishing has been it's always great getting the boat out on the lake.