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Yeah, I wish I had the confidence to push my boat on conditions.slabjig said:View attachment 639486
This is my "jetty" fishing boat, it's 14 foot and it's a short shaft transom (notice that the outboard which is long shaft is on a jack plate). Low boats like this are a definite plus if the wind is trying to blow you into the jetty, I'd never try fishing these spots with the 19 foot Willies. A jon boat would certainly not be my first choice, mainly because of the rough ride in chop. I have one, a 14 foot Lowe Big Jon, and I wouldn't take it over there for that reason, plus it has a jet drive on it which gets horrible fuel economy. The Suzuki on this thing burns less than a gallon of gas on the average trip and because it's so quiet, never gets shut off, I just let it idle while fishing. Nice thing about small boats, even if swamped, they float because they're required to have sufficient floatation to float level when swamped, even metal boats like this one (which has foam under all the seats). Modern ocean predictions are so good that there is no reason to be out there when you're at risk, I use both the marine forecast for NOAA data buoy 46050 (stonewall banks) as well as FishWeather website and choose South Beach for my forecast. Tuesday, the live reading at the Stonewall Banks buoy was 3 (foot swell), 16 second interval and winds light and variable) Then I look at this site: https://tides.net/oregon/2585/ for high and low tides and tide change while I'm on the water, don't want to be fighting the currents with a 10 foot tide change (Tuesday we launched at about half way to a high tide of 6 feet, after the tide changed it was going to a low of 4 feet, so very little current. It's amazing how well they predict ocean conditions, plus I get up early the day I go and take a look at current conditions at Stonewall Banks. If swell is under 5 feet, and period is over 10 seconds with wind gusts under 10 kts, it's a go. On days like Tuesday, the ocean was just as flat as the bay, so fishing the jetty tips wasn't an issue, and if the wind or waves picked up, just duck back into the bay. The one thing you don't want to do is be on the bar in a small boat on an outgoing tide with a big tidal change (like 9 foot going to -1 foot) because that can cause even modest swell to really stand up. AND carry all the appropriate safety gear, running lights, flares, anchor and sufficient rope and chain, bailing device, marine radio if you have access to a hand held, plus a descending device, because just as soon as you pass the tips of the jetties, ocean rules apply. Having said that, I've caught many limits half way out the north jetty, and gone nowhere near the bar. Hump to 100 yards from the tip can be very good fishing.
My Jon boat is a 16' with a 25 Suzi. And yeah, I idle all day while out fishing.slabjig said:View attachment 639486
This is my "jetty" fishing boat, it's 14 foot and it's a short shaft transom (notice that the outboard which is long shaft is on a jack plate). Low boats like this are a definite plus if the wind is trying to blow you into the jetty, I'd never try fishing these spots with the 19 foot Willies. A jon boat would certainly not be my first choice, mainly because of the rough ride in chop. I have one, a 14 foot Lowe Big Jon, and I wouldn't take it over there for that reason, plus it has a jet drive on it which gets horrible fuel economy. The Suzuki on this thing burns less than a gallon of gas on the average trip and because it's so quiet, never gets shut off, I just let it idle while fishing. Nice thing about small boats, even if swamped, they float because they're required to have sufficient floatation to float level when swamped, even metal boats like this one (which has foam under all the seats). Modern ocean predictions are so good that there is no reason to be out there when you're at risk, I use both the marine forecast for NOAA data buoy 46050 (stonewall banks) as well as FishWeather website and choose South Beach for my forecast. Tuesday, the live reading at the Stonewall Banks buoy was 3 (foot swell), 16 second interval and winds light and variable) Then I look at this site: https://tides.net/oregon/2585/ for high and low tides and tide change while I'm on the water, don't want to be fighting the currents with a 10 foot tide change (Tuesday we launched at about half way to a high tide of 6 feet, after the tide changed it was going to a low of 4 feet, so very little current. It's amazing how well they predict ocean conditions, plus I get up early the day I go and take a look at current conditions at Stonewall Banks. If swell is under 5 feet, and period is over 10 seconds with wind gusts under 10 kts, it's a go. On days like Tuesday, the ocean was just as flat as the bay, so fishing the jetty tips wasn't an issue, and if the wind or waves picked up, just duck back into the bay. The one thing you don't want to do is be on the bar in a small boat on an outgoing tide with a big tidal change (like 9 foot going to -1 foot) because that can cause even modest swell to really stand up. AND carry all the appropriate safety gear, running lights, flares, anchor and sufficient rope and chain, bailing device, marine radio if you have access to a hand held, plus a descending device, because just as soon as you pass the tips of the jetties, ocean rules apply. Having said that, I've caught many limits half way out the north jetty, and gone nowhere near the bar. Hump to 100 yards from the tip can be very good fishing.
Bit younger??? Shoot, I'm 75. I practically crawl out of the boat at the docks, but refuse to let age stop me from doing the things I love. On the Willies I installed steps and a grab pole on the trailer tongue when I got too old to just climb over the bow. (by the way, I never use the Willies along the jetties, way to big, too unresponsive, and too much of a wind profile, it's just a big sail) As far as ocean reports go, not much of a trick to it, I look for under 5 foot swell, over 10 second interval between swells and winds less than 10 kts (preferrably less than 5 kts). Wind direction matters, south winds usually mean weather coming in, plus if you're fishing the inside of the north jetty, south winds try to push you up on the rocks. I don't fish weather "windows" where there are just a few hours of desired conditions, because that can change in a hurry. In all honesty, for days I fish, the worst conditions which come closest to swamping me are boat wakes, charters push a big bow wave, and if my transom is facing that wake, there's a risk of water slopping over that 15 inch transom. Gregor is a self bailer, and there's been a time or two where I step up on plane and pull the drain plug to suck water out of the boat. Sounds riskier than it is, this boat has a very small drain hole, you can block it with your thumb. but it's kind of distracting steering and getting the plug back in.plumbertom said:Yeah, I wish I had the confidence to push my boat on conditions.
If I were a little younger, I'd probably more willing to take on more risk.
I'd certainly be more ready to learn more about reading the ocean reports.
But these days I tend to take things as easy as possible and reduce risk to the point that it's almost nonexistent.
It's "King Slew". I've been watching his stuff for years. Gives me a costal fishing fix when I'm 150 miles away.Casting Call said:Ask "King Shrew out of Newport, OR" U-tube him. Tony
Second boat is an inshore boat is aluminum, 15ft StarCraft, remote steering, 15hp Johnson. Crabbing and river/bay boat only. Must caught a 1000s plus crabs over the years. Mostly fish/crab the Tillamook confluence, easy to float/troll the river(s). When the runs are on the Siletz and else ware, (50yr Sturgeon fishing) I berth 1 or 2 months only!!! saves on gas, time = money. I just Run & Gun when I get the notice on the C.B. radio. 15min from Glen Eden beach. TonyCasting Call said:Yes, it's made in Calif. West Coaster Bay runner. See U-tube 16ft bay runner. Also, two more ft. will put you out bound from any jetty 3ft-5ft/ 16sec. conditions. Ask "King Shrew out of Newport, OR" U-tube him. Tony
To increase your confidence, go/take some who can help you read the bar entry/exit under the BEST of conditions. About "RISK" I use a TWO strike rule Ei: If I forgot the NET! that's strike ONE. It will make you/deckhand do stupid things under excitement. Strike TWO radio/vest/etc. Remember 3 strikes you're OUT! (dead) Tonyplumbertom said:Yeah, I wish I had the confidence to push my boat on conditions.
If I were a little younger, I'd probably more willing to take on more risk.
I'd certainly be more ready to learn more about reading the ocean reports.
But these days I tend to take things as easy as possible and reduce risk to the point that it's almost nonexistent.