Fall chinook runs..

[rogerdodger]

http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2014/02/fall_chinook_salmon_run_expect.html

sweet, hope the good ocean conditions reported will result in strong runs all along the coast...as for the Columbia, a huge run of Chinooks and Coho might make those $9.75 Columbia River Basin Endorsements very popular items...

 

[troutdude]

as for the Columbia, a huge run of Chinooks and Coho might make those $9.75 Columbia River Basin Endorsements very popular items...

Precisely what the "ticket promoters" want--more buyers! If sales are low; then CREATE them with hype. My bet is that, these "reports" of such "large" runs are fictitious.

Just my .02............

 

[DrTheopolis]

The predictions aren't out of line with the overall yearly increases in returns the Columbia has seen in recent years.

It may be big and crazy, but no river on earth has the salmon runs the Creek does. Might have to get out and fish it a bit this summer, although it's not really my style. None of my fishing buddies' boats are good for trolling (at least one of them does 20MPH, so we can go up around Government Island with some peace and quiet, the driftboat, not so much), so it's sitting on the hook plunking wobblers or plugs in the burning hot sun -- beer and reading material become key. With my (lack of) skill and (lack of) experience fishing that river, it's a pretty low-productivity fishery for me. Someday I'll work at getting better at it.

I much prefer fishing the coastal streams, but the Big C is close, and there's a million fish (literally) in August and September. And no matter how many people show up, it's never crowded (unless one enjoys fishing with crowds, which is also easy to find).

Heck, maybe a campout at Government Island is in order this summer.

 

[Casting Call]

Dr. T. is right, canals,dams,creeks.streams and end of the line frogwater. All of thease have more fish come through it's terra firma/per capita. I call it the black friday of Wal-mart syndrome. Pm me for an analogy to fish runs. I will put you on a readership list of my replies. Tony

 

[rogerdodger]

Precisely what the "ticket promoters" want--more buyers! If sales are low; then CREATE them with hype. My bet is that, these "reports" of such "large" runs are fictitious.

Just my .02............

LOL, while I absolutely respect your viewpoint, it is hard to believe there is a conspiracy between "State, federal and tribal fish managers" to inflate their prediction just to create hype ...

and we know that these predictions come with wide statistical scatter but I get real happy when that group of experts crunch their data and report that they "expect 1.6 million fall chinook salmon to head for the mouth of the Columbia this summer" and "add to that a huge forecast of 964,000 coho salmon to the Columbia".

I also like to see comments from people outside the prediction group...“If there is ever a year folks want to take time off and catch fish, this would be the year,’’ said Robert Moxley, a member of the bistate Columbia River Recreational Adviser Group. “I’m more excited than you can possibly imagine.’’

it sounds like, if the runs are really strong, much of the credit will go to tribal fisheries/hatcheries operations and fish friendly dam operations, plus good ocean conditions. this last item has me hoping for strong coastal runs of kings and coho, can't wait to collect my own data on this :thumb:...

all in all, I like all this much better than a prediction of weak fall runs...cheers, roger

 

[jamisonace]

This is great news. Looks like we'll have a second year in a row with banner fall Chinook fishing. However, I want another 2004 Springer and steelhead mckenzie run.

 

[OnTheDrop]

I was reading this the other day. Go ahead and give me half these numbers and I'm stoked. Can't wait for the coast already...

This is great news. Looks like we'll have a second year in a row with banner fall Chinook fishing. However, I want another 2004 Springer and steelhead mckenzie run.

That was the year that I started targeting Steelhead/Salmon on the Clackamas. MY GOODNESS...What a year to start. I thought that was what fishing was like all the time..

 

[Irishrover]

http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2014/02/fall_chinook_salmon_run_expect.html

sweet, hope the good ocean conditions reported will result in strong runs all along the coast...as for the Columbia, a huge run of Chinooks and Coho might make those $9.75 Columbia River Basin Endorsements very popular items...

That's why I went back and bought two more. Last year was a fantastic year for chinook. Coho were not real hot. Now this year they say 1.6 million chinook and close to a million coho. I'm going to start tying mooching rigs up tomorrow!
No wait a minute I need to slow down and think halibut, and lingcod first.

 

[JonT]

I heard last year was a record chinook year on the Klickitat by nearly double the previous best year.

 

[jamisonace]

I started that year too. I was sure I was the best fisherman ever to grace this great state. Haha

I've been humbled ever since.

I was reading this the other day. Go ahead and give me half these numbers and I'm stoked. Can't wait for the coast already...



That was the year that I started targeting Steelhead/Salmon on the Clackamas. MY GOODNESS...What a year to start. I thought that was what fishing was like all the time..

 

[plumb2fish]

I want another 2004 Springer and steelhead mckenzie run.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, we will probably never see a run on the Willamette System half the size of the ones we had then. Just think when they stop Steelhead releases and get the Springer plants cut to 100,000....no summers and 1/10th of the springers....

 

[DrTheopolis]

That was the year that I started targeting Steelhead/Salmon on the Clackamas. MY GOODNESS...What a year to start. I thought that was what fishing was like all the time..

I got serious about it in 92 (pretty sure it was 92). 2004 was a drop in the bucket compared to that year. Just huge numbers at the hatcheries, and huge numbers over the dams (they used to trap the summers and truck them upstream, along with letting some go through the ladders). I think there was about 12,000 summers caught that year, or some obscene number. On hot sunny days, we'd launch a raft, chuck a little spinner out the back on an ultralight, and actually hook summers doing that.

And yeah, I thought I was the greatest fisherman who ever lived for a couple years. The reality set in, and actually had to try and learn what I was doing.

 

[eugene1]

Nice to see another good year for fall nooks! Looks like California will be doing pretty good as well, down a little from last year, but not too shabby.

Best,

 

[OnTheDrop]

I got serious about it in 92 (pretty sure it was 92). 2004 was a drop in the bucket compared to that year. Just huge numbers at the hatcheries, and huge numbers over the dams (they used to trap the summers and truck them upstream, along with letting some go through the ladders). I think there was about 12,000 summers caught that year, or some obscene number. On hot sunny days, we'd launch a raft, chuck a little spinner out the back on an ultralight, and actually hook summers doing that.

And yeah, I thought I was the greatest fisherman who ever lived for a couple years. The reality set in, and actually had to try and learn what I was doing.

Lol. Yeah, my uncle said the same thing about it back then. That's just ridiculous!