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I would like to get some input on layering clothing for the weather. The issue I am having is staying both dry and warm when fishing and hunting. I would really like to find out the best way to layer my cloths.
So my 1st layer is a dri-fit long sleeve shirt, 2nd layer is a wool sweater, 3rd layer is a light sweat shirt, 4th is a heavy coat, 5th layer is my pvc rain gear and or wind breaker. My question is this. Is there a specific brand or material you guys recommend for each layer.
Also, usually, as soon as I start sweeting I try and shed one of the layers and continue on. The problem is I tend to sweet quick and a lot. I consider myself in pretty good shape. I can run a few miles or hike em and still be comfortable doing it again the next day or later in the afternoon the same day. Thanks!
 
when im working in our unheated warehouse when it's freezing cold like this, i will wear my dryfit pants/longsleaves, then also carhartt thermal long undies and thermal long sleeve shirt are AMAZING then a carhartt zipup sweatshirt, and my sherpa lined fantasticly warm carhartt jacket, then when it's raining i'll throw on my carhartt waterproof jacket over it all :) that's also my cold/wetweather fishing outfit for the most part
 
I would do your normal layering without the PVC. switch to Frogg Toggs
 
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grampa ron said:
I would do your normal layering without the PVC. switch to Frogg Toggs

I was looking at those at cabelas earlier. They have good reveiws. I kind of like the real tree look.
 
tomriker said:
when im working in our unheated warehouse when it's freezing cold like this, i will wear my dryfit pants/longsleaves, then also carhartt thermal long undies and thermal long sleeve shirt are AMAZING then a carhartt zipup sweatshirt, and my sherpa lined fantasticly warm carhartt jacket, then when it's raining i'll throw on my carhartt waterproof jacket over it all :) that's also my cold/wetweather fishing outfit for the most part

I think the dri fit helps a lot and it is comfortable not like spandex. Most of the cloths I mentineioned above I have worn to work or still do wear to work. Maybe part of my issue is not the cloths but the order I'm taking them off or taking them off too late and the damage is done.
 
One question I have has to do with the base layer. Back in the day I use to wearPolly Pros. Well now they are real spendy. Instead of gong out and buying new ones I have been wearing dri fit. Am I way off the mark with this idea that they offer similar preformance?

Ok i did some quick research and my conclusion is that they are not that close in preformance. Is there another brand similar you guys use?
 
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When i was a guide in Alaska i would byy poly pro at REI you could choose the weight for what you were using it for. I have a couple poly shirts made by Starter i got at Walmart that work well. They make thick poly pro sweaters i would recommend instead the wool to keep you warm and dry. Good luck
 
Frogg Toggs like grandpa ron said is a great outer wear! I picked up a set at M&N work wear in Astoria for $40. They are light weight and breathable very happy with them. If it is real cold I'll wear a John Malloy Irish wool sweater. That thing is warm on the coldest of days but it is heavy and smells like an old sheep at times. TJR_84 has a good point when he mentions poly pro sweaters. My favorite cold weather piece of clothing is my Filson Double Mackinaw. That keeps me dry and warm. It has better use in the field than for fishing. I like it for those cold snowy days, it is wool and a wee bit heavy, but not so as you would notice much. A good rain proof hat is a must too.

I am guessing you are not wading while fishing or we would be talking about waders for dry and warmth.
 
I use a 3 layer system; much akin to this article. It seems like maybe where you are in error, is due to the type of of base layer you're using for "Moisture Management".

Source:

http://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/dress-layers.html

Layering your clothing is a tried-and-true way to ensure your comfort in the outdoors. The beauty of this simple concept is that it allows you to make quick adjustments based on your activity level and changes in the weather.

Each layer has a function. The base layer (against your skin) manages moisture; the insulating layer protects you from the cold; the shell layer (outer layer) shields you from wind and rain. You simply add or subtract layers as needed.

For a deeper understanding, read on.

Your Base Layer: Moisture Management


Base layer

This is your next-to-skin layer. It helps regulate your body temperature by moving perspiration away from your skin.

Keeping dry helps you maintain a cool body temperature in the summer and avoid hypothermia in the winter. If you've ever worn a cotton T-shirt under your raincoat while you hiked, you probably remember feeling wet and clammy, even though you weren't getting wet from the rain itself. Cotton is a fabric that retains perspiration and can leave you chilled.

For outdoor comfort, your base layer should be made of merino wool (popularized by brands such as SmartWool, Ibex and Icebreaker), synthetic fabrics (such as REI MTS, Capilene, PowerDry and CoolMax polyester) or, for less-active uses, silk. Rather than absorbing moisture, these fabrics transport (or "wick") perspiration away from your skin, dispersing it on the outer surface where it can evaporate. The result: You stay drier even when you sweat, and your shirt dries faster afterwards.

Examples: A base layer can be anything from briefs and sports bras to long underwear sets (tops and bottoms) to tights and T-shirts. It can be designed to fit snugly or loosely. For cool conditions, thermal underwear is available in light-, mid- and expedition-weights. Choose the weight that best matches your activity and the temperature.

Shop REI's selection of men's underwear or women's underwear; or shop men's fitness tops or women's fitness tops.
Your Middle Layer: Insulation

Middle layer

The insulating layer helps you retain heat by trapping air close to your body.

Natural fibers such as wool and goose down are excellent insulators. Merino wool sweaters and shirts offer soft, reliable warmth and keep on insulating even when wet. For very cold and dry conditions, goose down is best. It offers an unbeatable warmth-to-weight ratio and is highly compressible. Down's main drawback is that it must be kept dry to maintain its insulating ability. A new innovation—water-resistant down—promises to change this.

Classic fleece such as Polartec 100, 200 or Thermal Pro polyester and other synthetics such as Thinsulate provide warmth for a variety of conditions. They're lightweight, breathable and insulate even when wet. They also dry faster and have a higher warmth-to-weight ratio than even wool. Classic fleece's main drawbacks are wind permeability and bulk (it's less compressible than other fabrics).

Like thermal underwear, fleece tops are available in 3 weights:

Lightweight for aerobic activity or mild climates.
Midweight for moderate activity or climates.
Expedition-weight for low activity or cold climates.

Examples: For high-energy activities such as cross-country skiing, cycling or running, choose lightweight fleece (Polartec 100 or PowerDry) to avoid overheating. For cold conditions, try thicker fleece such as Polartec 200 or 300.

Wind fleece such as Polartec WindPro polyester or Gore WindStopper adds a high level of wind resistance to fleece. How? It uses a hidden membrane that does not affect breathability.

Shop REI's selection of men's fleece or women's fleece garments.
Your Shell Layer: Weather Protection

Shell layer

The shell or outer layer protects you from wind, rain or snow. Shells range from pricey mountaineering jackets to simple windproof jackets. Most allow at least some perspiration to escape; virtually all are treated with a durable water repellent (DWR) finish to make water bead up and roll off the fabric.

An outer shell is an important piece in bad weather, because if wind and water are allowed to penetrate to your inner layers, you begin to feel cold. Furthermore, without proper ventilation, perspiration can't evaporate but instead condenses on the inside of your shell.

Fit is another consideration. Your shell layer should be roomy enough to fit easily over other layers and not restrict your movement.

Shells can be lumped into the following categories:

Waterproof/breathable shells: The most functional (and expensive) choices, these are best for wet, cool conditions and alpine activities. Shells using laminated membranes such as Gore-Tex and eVent offer top performance; those using fabric coatings are a more economical alternative. Shells are categorized by REI as either rainwear, which emphasizes low weight and packability, or mountaineering wear, which is more abrasion-resistant and has additional features.

Water-resistant/breathable shells: These are best for light precipitation and high activity levels. Less expensive than waterproof/breathable shells, they're usually made of tightly woven fabrics (such as mini-ripstop nylon) to block wind and light rain.

Soft shells: These emphasize breathability. Most feature stretch fabric or fabric panels for added comfort during aerobic activities. Many offer both shell and insulative properties, so they in effect combine 2 layers into 1. Soft shells include cold- and mild-weather options.

Waterproof/non-breathable shells: These economical shells are ideal for rainy days with light activity (e.g., fishing, sports viewing). They are typically made of a sturdy, polyurethane-coated nylon which is water- and windproof.

Insulated shells: Some outer shells have a layer of insulation built in—such as fleece—making them convenient for cold, wet conditions, but not as versatile for layering in fluctuating temperatures.
 
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I am guessing you are not wading while fishing or we would be talking about waders for dry and warmth.[/QUOTE said:
Yeah, I ve been using hip waders and they seemto work well. They are a little heave to walk around int but they work fine.
 
fishtales said:
Yeah, I ve been using hip waders and they seemto work well. They are a little heave to walk around int but they work fine.

A good set of chest waders can keep you both warm and dry. I use a lightweight set of breathable chest waders if I plan on doing a lot of walking or wading. I wear fleece under the waders and thin long johns under the fleece. I stay warm, dry and can move. If I'm not going to be moving a lot or using my drift boat I wear my neoprene chest waders with the fleece under them. Completely warm and dry but not the best for hiking around.
 
I picked up a Stormr brand jacket this past fall for fishing in the surf. Its an awesome top, neoprene with a fleece lining. Its also great on a boat, blocks all the wind and is 100% waterproof, with cuffs on the sleeves that cinch tight. Its a different design being neoprene, its nice because its not stiff PVC.
 
I have been looking at Sitka products both the Ascent Pant and Jacket or the 90% pant and Jacket. The 90% looks heavier and would probably fit for fishing and the Ascent looks to be good for hike in hunting because it is lighter material. Either way, my thought process is to wear poly pros as a base under each and then bring a pair of frog togs in case it rains along with a warm less expensive brand hunting coat for when it get real cold.
 
I like most of the Sitka gear I have looked at but it all apears to be articualted. I was hoping to get a little feedback on this. Fishing would not be an issue but if was on a hike in hunt it might be a little awkward. Most of the hunting i do is rifle hunting. Does anyone have any input on this?
 
I decided on the Sitka brand. I hope it is as good as they say. The Ascent pants and Kelvin Light Vest showed up today. Thankfully it was on sale. It looks like supper light material. I am interested in how it will work. I wish I could get more but it is too expensive to get an entire outfit. I bought in the optifade open coutry because I hike a lot and they say it wears better.
 

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