I caught a dozen or so panfish using nightcrawlers with no weight in the shallows from the dock. Fish off the part of the dock with no rail and you can see the fish go for your worm. When u can't see your worm set the hook and youll have a fish. 3 of them were ok sized at like 4-7 inches. Tried for bass for a couple hours and got one bite but no hook up. No one else there caught anything, atleast I didn't see them and the people I asked said they got skunked. Good luck.